Run away, run away!

[dar_jeeling]

Has anyone already read resonant8's Terms of Service? Is the noncon part, and I apologise for the vague wording, bad?

At the moment, I'm kind of hypersensitive to that sort of thing, which is why I've stayed away from say auburnnothenna's In the City of 7 Walls 'verse.

It's just-- it makes me grit my teeth and clench my fists and the helpless rage is choking me and I cannot stand to see the characters in these kinds of situation. (Why, damn it, why? I want to read those stories!)

Eta: Got the info I wanted, thank you very much!

Comments

[ladycat777.livejournal.com]

Can you define what you mean by bad? It's... it's not really talked about, except in reference. It's all in Rodney's POV, so it's his reactions to John, not necessarily John's reactions to it, if that makes sense?

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

That does make sense! And it helps a lot to know that. Thank you!

[ladycat777.livejournal.com]

Yay! I really recommend it -- it's an excellent fic, even for the stomach-twisty moments; she's good at applying the comfort before you're even fully aware of the hurt, which is a good trick :D

[ltlj.livejournal.com]

I'm the same way, I can't stand to read non-con scenes. It just makes me sick and angry.

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

Usually, I'm okay with them, but lately, they make me want to punch things. It's puzzling me! It'd make sense if I were...more emotionally invested in the characters than before or anything, but that's not the case.

[shetiger.livejournal.com]

I really enjoyed it, but it's so hard to say what might hit somebody else's squick. There are two different things that might get to you--John's entire situation is uncomfortable and emotionally difficult for him. The situation is protracted but not the worst thing imaginable, and Rodney's there for him throughout. The other incident is sort of a turning point moment, but it's a "and then this happened" without much detail, and it gets glossed over pretty quickly.

Wow, can I be any more vague?

Personally, I would have liked a little bit more comfort at the end, but nothing in the story had me wanting to run away or smash things. Your mileage might totally vary.

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

Your mileage might totally vary.
Hee. That's helful. Don't mind me, I'm just kidding. ;) And vague is good! Now I'm still unspoiled.

It's not really a squick of mine, but at the moment-- *shrugs, points at post*. ladycat777 mentioned the Rodney POV and suddenly I'm all: Super! I can totally read this story.

Self, stop being so confusing, please.

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

*rereads, sighs*

Thank you.

[shetiger.livejournal.com]

:) You're welcome.

[reedfem.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... well, I think what the author meant by non-con is just a small bit where John mentions something that happened, he and Rodney discuss it briefly and it's done with.

You mentioned not reading the City of 7 Walls though, and I read some of that before I had to stop too. So I'll say that John's situation in resonant8's story, although he went into it willingly enough, becomes sort of non-con (at least in my mind), in that he's more or less coerced into doing things he doesn't necessarily like or want to do, which resembles in a superficial way his situation in 7 Walls, depending on what you are sensitive to.

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

Oh, I did read the excerpts and they kind of broke me, so I'm waiting for the day I'm strong enough to face the larger chunk. ;)

Thanks for the details!

[enname.livejournal.com]

Hey you.

I think everyone has already answered in terms of resonant8, but for Seven Walls? The point it is to not have a pretty, fun and nice portrayal of slave fic. No, it isn't showing non-con in a happy and pretty light even remotely. Yes it hurts, it breaks them open and does so through repeated exposure to what is essentially rape and mental abuse as well as physical. Only tastefully and hidden in a huge amount of 'gilded cage'.

Then again any sort of slavery is by definition non-consensual and I get much more discomfitted by stories that leap over that aspect to go for the hawt and 'exotic' factor. The fun side, when really? There isn't any. At the very least Auburn deals with the ramifications and makes sure that it isn't fun. Disturbing yeah, and for that reason I can see why reading either is hard.

Psst, the excerpts are probably worse than the whole story (uh, well. mostly) because you don't get the bits where John isn't in slave mode.

[dar-jeeling.livejournal.com]

The point it is to not have a pretty, fun and nice portrayal of slave fic.
Well. Yes.

Disturbing yeah, and for that reason I can see why reading either is hard.
And when I say I enjoyed Auburn's story it's because of that. *points at your sentence* Disturbing and interesting.

I get much more discomfitted by stories that leap over that aspect to go for the hawt [...] factor.
But it's essentially a (sex) fantasy. The reader knows it, the author knows it. (At least, I like to think so.) Isn't the hawt factor kind of the point of those things?

[enname.livejournal.com]

Isn't the hawt factor kind of the point of those things?

Perhaps, except that I will tend to refuse to read outright any story that contains that sort of thing if it isn't responsibly explored. Just because I've known so many people who have lived similar experiences and it isn't hawt or cool in the least. Disturbing, unsettling, down right traumatising, yes.

I can't diassociate to the fantasy world. Hence I can read Auburn's because it isn't asking me to, instead it is sort of subverting it.